{"id":10040,"date":"2012-09-20T07:02:13","date_gmt":"2012-09-20T16:02:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/danbaileyphoto.com\/blog\/?p=10040"},"modified":"2012-09-20T07:04:37","modified_gmt":"2012-09-20T16:04:37","slug":"the-muir-project-interview-by-robin-black","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/danbaileyphoto.com\/blog\/the-muir-project-interview-by-robin-black\/","title":{"rendered":"The Muir Project Interview, by Robin Black"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_10041\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-10041\" style=\"width: 200px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/pages\/Robin-Black-Photography\/104175769630296\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-10041\" title=\"RobinBLack\" src=\"http:\/\/danbaileyphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/RobinBLack.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"260\" srcset=\"https:\/\/danbaileyphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/RobinBLack.jpg 200w, https:\/\/danbaileyphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/RobinBLack-115x150.jpg 115w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-10041\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Robin Black<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><em>Very special thanks to California photographer Robin Black, who wrote this guest post.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>The Muir Project Interview, by Robin Black<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>\u201cWander a whole summer if you can. Thousands of God&#8217;s blessings will search you and soak you as if you were a sponge, and the big days will go by uncounted. If you are business-tangled and so burdened by duty that only weeks can be got out of the heavy laden year, give a month at least. The time will not be taken from the sum of life. Instead of shortening, it will indefinitely lengthen it and make you truly immortal.\u201d \u2013<\/em>John Muir<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"color: #000000; font-family: Georgia, 'Times New Roman', 'Bitstream Charter', Times, serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/pages\/The-Muir-Project\/240615075966884\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-10045\" title=\"Muir Project\" src=\"http:\/\/danbaileyphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Muir-Project.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"560\" height=\"420\" srcset=\"https:\/\/danbaileyphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Muir-Project.jpg 560w, https:\/\/danbaileyphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Muir-Project-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/danbaileyphoto.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/09\/Muir-Project-400x300.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 560px) 100vw, 560px\" \/><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Last summer, a group of friends set out to thru-hike the John Muir Trail\u2014but these are no ordinary hikers.\u00a0 They call themselves <a href=\"http:\/\/themuirproject.com\">The Muir Project<\/a>, and they\u2019re an assortment of photographers, musicians and other artists who wanted to document their journey.\u00a0 The footage they returned home with has become a work in progress called <em>\u201cMile, Mile and a Half,\u201d<\/em> and judging by the preliminary trailers they\u2019ve shared, it\u2019s going to be a beautiful and inspiring documentary.<\/p>\n<p>There were varying degrees of backcountry experience among the group, but after the idea had percolated for years, they were committed to their journey.\u00a0 Some people plan this particular hike for years, or even decades\u2014and fewer still are able to actually carry out the dream of a JMT thru-hike.\u00a0 Their documentary may just inspire you to make your own thru-hike.<\/p>\n<p>As their project gets closer to completion, they\u2019ve lauched a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/themuirproject\/mile-mile-and-a-half-a-feature-documentary?ref=live\">Kickstarter fundraiser<\/a> for the additional funds needed to make this a truly professional project.\u00a0 They still have a few weeks go go on the fundraiser, and if you\u2019d like to help them finish their project, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/themuirproject\/mile-mile-and-a-half-a-feature-documentary?ref=live\">you can find the details here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>If you want a peek at the documentary, they\u2019ve posted a few trailers at their Vimeo site:\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/vimeo.com\/themuirproject\">http:\/\/vimeo.com\/themuirproject<\/a>. Also, visit the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/pages\/The-Muir-Project\/240615075966884\">Muir Project Facebook Page.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>I sat down\u2014virtually\u2014with the members of the Muir Project recently to find out how they planned for and carried out their adventure.\u00a0 They are:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Jen Serena, Still Photographer<\/li>\n<li>Ric Serena, Co-Director\/Cinematographer<\/li>\n<li>Jason Fitzpatrick, Co-Director\/Cinematographer<\/li>\n<li>Durand Trench, Location Sound Mixer<\/li>\n<li>Zee Hatley, Additional Camera<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>\u00a01.\u00a0\u00a0How did the project get started? Whose idea was it?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>RIC:<\/strong>\u00a0 Jason was definitely the initial catalyst for the project.\u00a0 He\u2019s a native Californian and I think it\u2019s always been on his list of things to do before he dies.\u00a0 I\u2019m ashamed to say this, but I\u2019d never heard of John Muir before meeting Jason.\u00a0 He\u2019s not a figure we grew learning about in the southeastern US, but after moving to Los Angeles and befriending Jason, I came to learn about John Muir and the trail named in his honor.<\/p>\n<p>As the years passed, we continued talking about hiking the trail in its entirety and bringing our cameras along.\u00a0 Jobs, children &amp; prior commitments in one form or another forced us to put if off year after year, but we finally made the commitment to do it.\u00a0 Ultimately, I think I was always missing that extra \u201csomething\u201d that intrigued me about documenting our journey.\u00a0 But as others became attached to the project, the artistry angle seemed to fall in place.<\/p>\n<p><strong>2.\u00a0\u00a0Why the idea to include all the various artists and creative types?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>JEN:<\/strong>\u00a0 Part of it was just a natural gathering of friends, but as each new member was added, with their particular strengths in various forms of artistry, we knew we would have a truly compelling story. Each viewer can latch on to just the sound, the music, the stills or video, but then it all blends to become a beautiful tapestry of storytelling. And the painters were just an extremely remarkable string of luck \u2013 as we met them along the trail.<\/p>\n<p><strong>3.\u00a0\u00a0How do you all know each other? Did you all know each other before starting the trip?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>JASON:<\/strong>\u00a0 Ric and I worked together at CBS, and somehow we found out that we each loved backpacking. He and Jen joined me on a really difficult, but amazing winter trip to the Ostrander Ski hut in Yosemite. After that we helped each other out on a few film projects, and became good friends.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RIC:<\/strong>\u00a0 Durand and I met a few years back through a mutual friend.\u00a0 I knew he enjoyed the outdoors, but for as much as we discussed our shared interest in backpacking, we never hiked together.\u00a0 Our friendship really formed on set (he\u2019s been a location sound recordist for nearly all my directing projects) and in bars (need I say more?)<\/p>\n<p><strong>JEN:<\/strong> Then PB &amp; Bernie were good friends of Durand\u2019s, and the others we met along the trail as happy accidents.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DURAND:<\/strong>\u00a0 What can I say?!\u00a0 I like backpacking and good conversation with friends over drinks.\u00a0 That usually brings a pretty eclectic and amazing group of folks together on the trail.\u00a0 No matter what happens out there, we\u2019re always having a good time.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEE:<\/strong> I knew Ric and Jen through a mutual friend for the better part of a decade, the others I met during prep.\u00a0 Jason and I got to spend a few weekends doing food drops, which means ROADTRIP! The next best way to get to know someone is by hiking with them.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a04.\u00a0\u00a0How did the concept for the project progress&#8211;has this documentary always been the goal?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>RIC:<\/strong>\u00a0 We\u2019re all storytellers that went out for a long hike.\u00a0 I think we hoped we\u2019d have a film in one form or another, but I don\u2019 think any of us truly knew what we were going to walk away with.\u00a0 Honestly, we would\u2019ve been happy with a 10 minute short film, but it turned out we had enough material for a feature documentary.<\/p>\n<p><strong>JASON:<\/strong>\u00a0 I think the film we have is different from what we thought it would be when we set out. I also think its much better. We never realized that it would be so much about us and our experiences on the trail, but I think that the personal elements to the film make it much more entertaining. I think that not only seeing the beauty of the trail but seeing how it effects each of us makes the film more accessible, and compelling than it would have been if it was focused simply on the history and geography of the trail.<\/p>\n<p><strong>5.\u00a0\u00a0How long did you plan the trip before you took that first step on the trail?\u00a0\u00a0What kinds of barriers\/problems did you face in this phase?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>JEN:<\/strong> We couldn\u2019t get a permit out of Happy Isles \u2013 the normal starting point for the trail &#8211; even applying 6 months in advance. And when we arrived a few days early to attempt the lottery, we found that there was a max of 4 permits per group, so we were out of luck there too. I guess the only other problem was Durand getting altitude sickness on the food drop, but I should let him tell that story.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DURAND:<\/strong>\u00a0 If you\u2019ve never attempted a month long thru hike like the JMT, not a single member of our group had done so before, the logistics that go into a successful trip are DAUNTING.\u00a0 Between permits, food drops, transportation to and from the end points, and then simply planning how many miles you\u2019ll do each day the planning is crucial and can be overwhelming.\u00a0 As Jen noted, I suffered from altitude sickness, as well as a brutal case of food poisoning, less than a week before hitting the trail which was a humbling reminder that it is impossible to foresee and plan for every problem you might face.\u00a0 The best advice I could give, would be to treat the entire trip, planning included, as an adventure.\u00a0 If you can\u2019t laugh and shrug off some of the inevitable and unforeseeable issues you\u2019ll face, it will ruin your trip.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEE:<\/strong> Honestly, prep went pretty easy for me, being that Jen and Ric were so good at the planning. Particularly the meal prep. \u00a0We got to spend a good day, as a group, divvying up the ingredients into meals according to recipes Jen had found.\u00a0 Then the food drops, which were easy enough, until Durand decided to get sick on us within sight of the pass we had to get over for the drop.\u00a0 That was scarier than he\u2019s letting on.\u00a0 He did not look well, and we had to book it back down the mountain at dusk.\u00a0 I was so worried for him, and so glad that it wasn\u2019t me (as I am clearly the weakest hiker in the bunch.)\u00a0 But altitude sickness can hit anyone at any time.\u00a0 Even with no prior episodes. If there\u2019s one thing I would change, I would have turned around as soon as he started looking green in the gills, and not let him push on.\u00a0 It made it that much worse, and there\u2019s always the donkey drop.<\/p>\n<p><strong>6.\u00a0\u00a0Did you all have prior experience hiking the backcountry?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>JEN:<\/strong> For Ric &amp; I, our longest trip was 4 nights. So this was a big deal. But once there, we found out that it actually wasn\u2019t. After 3-4 days, there\u2019s a natural rhythm that you work into.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DURAND:<\/strong>\u00a0 I\u2019ve been camping and backpacking as far back as I can remember.\u00a0 The majority of family vacations in the Trench household involved getting in the car and heading to the backcountry.\u00a0 While I can soundly say that I did not always appreciate the experience at the time, hiking in solid rain around Mount St. Helens and waking up to a sibling banging pots together at 3am to scare off wolves surrounding our camp comes to mind, I look back at all the experiences as invaluable life experience that allows you to put everyday situations into perspective.\u00a0 Prior to the JMT my longest backpacking trip was 2 weeks. Each trip into the backcountry is an all too brief experience and I am already planning a longer outing.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEE:<\/strong> I\u2019d done some destination trips in Sequoia\/Kings Canyon as a kid, but that was along the lines of: hike in for a day, stay a week, hike back out.\u00a0 Through hiking is a different story, a very different story. You see so much more, yet get to know it so much less intimately.<\/p>\n<p><strong>7.\u00a0\u00a0Were there any close calls regarding life and limb (or cameras) while you were on the journey?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>JASON:<\/strong>\u00a0 We were pretty good about protecting our gear. We knew going in that we&#8217;d be dealing with some more extreme elements than a JMT hiker would on a normal snow year, do we had several layers of water protection for the crossings and rainy days.<\/p>\n<p>As for limbs, other than a few cranky ankles, some pretty horrific blisters and a cut or two we were pretty lucky. Nobody was seriously hurt.<\/p>\n<p><strong>8.\u00a0\u00a0If you had it all to do over again, would you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>JASON:\u00a0<\/strong> HELLS YEAH!!!!<\/p>\n<p><strong>RIC:<\/strong>\u00a0 Absolutely, but I want to bring my sketch pad next time around.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DURAND<\/strong>:\u00a0 Wait, what?!\u00a0 When?\u00a0 I\u2019m in.<\/p>\n<p><strong>JEN:<\/strong>\u00a0 Well, somebody has to feed these guys.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEE:<\/strong> I still need to work on my harmonica playing\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>9.\u00a0\u00a0How did you plan for carrying all the photography (painting, music) gear into the backcountry?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>RIC:<\/strong>\u00a0 We had a test hike about a month before in the Ojai valley.\u00a0 It provided us the opportunity not only to hike with others we hadn\u2019t been in the wilderness with before, but also to see what gear we needed and didn\u2019t need.\u00a0 For example, I was dead set on bringing a 200mm lens with me, but quickly realized on that test trip, that it would be such a rare occasion that I could effectively use that lens (many times, I had to steal shots as we\u2019re hiking along) that it wasn\u2019t worth the weight.\u00a0 From there, we all just distributed gear based on weight and who would use what equipment the most.\u00a0 In terms of music, PB always brings his Uke and Bernie was trying something new with the glockenspiel.<\/p>\n<p><em>(also check Bernie\u2019s blog:\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/themuirproject.com\/blog\/13503193\">http:\/\/themuirproject.com\/blog\/13503193<\/a>)<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>RIC:<\/strong>\u00a0 The painters?\u00a0 We hadn\u2019t planned on meeting them\u2026it was completely fortuitous.\u00a0 Once we saw how dedicated they were to THEIR medium, I know I felt my creative commitment paled in comparison.<\/p>\n<p><em>(also check out Tom Stipanov\u2019s blog:\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/themuirproject.com\/blog\/13503178\">http:\/\/themuirproject.com\/blog\/13503178<\/a>)<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>10.\u00a0\u00a0Because of all that extra gear, did you have to plan more resupply drops than a &#8220;normal&#8221; JMT hike?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>JASON:<\/strong>\u00a0 We didn&#8217;t do more drops than most, we just had heavier packs.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEE:<\/strong> Well, we didn\u2019t do more drops than most people going our pace\u2026 but I don\u2019t know that people doing 9 day JMT trips were doing four drops. I also have no idea how they get to see anything at that pace, we certainly wouldn\u2019t have been able to shoot anything.<\/p>\n<p><strong>11.\u00a0\u00a0What was your biggest surprise on the trip?\u00a0\u00a0What did you learn or experience that took you by surprise? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>JEN:<\/strong> I can honestly say I was pleasantly surprised by being able to \u201chang\u201d with the guys. I\u2019ve held my own on trips before, but that was only a few days. This was a month, and after seeing so many hikers dropping of the trail that year, I had my doubts early on. But in the end, working as a team, I was able to do it. And there\u2019s no greater feeling.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DURAND:<\/strong>\u00a0 I was surprised that the days weren\u2019t as grueling as I had imagined. Don\u2019t get me wrong, we had some really, really hard days, but when you are in good company and can laugh at the trials and tribulations you face each day, it is made quite a bit easier.\u00a0 I also learned that there is never enough time.\u00a0 There will always be spots that you pass along the trail where you wish you could spend at least a few hours if not an additional day.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RIC:<\/strong>\u00a0My biggest surprise was that Durand is funny.<\/p>\n<p><strong>12.\u00a0\u00a0What was your greatest lesson on the trip, personal or otherwise?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>JASON:<\/strong>\u00a0 How amazing and worthwhile it is to take the time to immerse yourself into something exciting and positive. It may be a lot of work, and it&#8217;s not easy to disappear for a month, but so many wonderful things have come as a result of it.<\/p>\n<p><strong>DURAND:<\/strong>\u00a0 Opportunities like this don\u2019t come along very often and you really have to take advantage of them.\u00a0 Taking a month off does not come easily, but I will never look back on this trip with regret.<\/p>\n<p><strong>RIC:<\/strong>\u00a0 Prior to the trip, I had guilt about being away from our daughter for 30 days.\u00a0 I knew she\u2019d have an amazing time with her Grandparents, but I still questioned the decision.\u00a0 Having finished the trip and returned to my regular life, I no longer have those feelings.\u00a0 I want her to know her parents followed their dreams, and I\u2019m proud we can set that example.<\/p>\n<p><strong>ZEE:<\/strong>\u00a0 I learned that I had completely let myself go.\u00a0 It was bad enough on the trail with my wobbly legs under that heavy pack, and the heavy breathing that makes me sound like a 30 year smoker. Then watching the movie, and seeing that I\u2019ll be immortalized with that flabby gut\u2026 literally in the worst shape of my life. I\u2019ve since started running and being more active in general, and if we ever get a similar opportunity again, I\u2019m planning on sporting a six pack. I really want people to meet me after seeing the movie, and have them not quite recognize me.<\/p>\n<p><strong>13.\u00a0\u00a0Do you have a tentative release date for the documentary?\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>RIC:<\/strong>\u00a0 We\u2019re aiming for the middle of October for a completion date, but we\u2019re hoping to spend a few months in film festivals before releasing the film to the general public.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.kickstarter.com\/projects\/themuirproject\/mile-mile-and-a-half-a-feature-documentary?ref=live\">The Kickstarter Campaign<\/a> will be instrumental in helping us to achieve both goals.<\/p>\n<p>[iframe]&lt;iframe src=&#8221;http:\/\/player.vimeo.com\/video\/36675195&#8243; width=&#8221;600&#8243; height=&#8221;338&#8243; frameborder=&#8221;0&#8243; webkitAllowFullScreen mozallowfullscreen allowFullScreen&gt;&lt;\/iframe&gt;[\/iframe]<\/p>\n<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<\/p>\n<p>Robin Black is an award winning Los Angeles based photographer who spends most of her time photographing the Sierra Nevada, California coast and desert Southwest areas. Her work has been featured in galleries around the U.S., including the museum gallery in Yosemite National Park. Check out Robin&#8217;s work at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.robinblackphotography.com\/\">www.robinblackphotography.com<\/a> and see update and new imagery at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/pages\/Robin-Black-Photography\/104175769630296\">her Facebook Page<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Very special thanks to California photographer Robin Black, who wrote this guest post. The Muir Project Interview, by Robin Black \u201cWander a whole summer if you can. Thousands of God&#8217;s blessings will search you and soak you as if you were a sponge, and the big days will go by uncounted. 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