• Rick says:

    What I can’t figure out is what options do they have for those of us with older versions of Lightroom and no Photoshop? Looks to me like they’re still charging the $49.99 for the entire suite. They’re placating the veterans while keeping it harder for others to get on board…no wonder the major photo bloggers all like this deal. It still seems like a money grab to me.

  • Dan Bailey says:

    Rick, I can’t speak for anyone else, but the reason that I like this deal is that it’s a whole lot better than the the previous bad deal that they came up with. Regarding the notion of it being a giant money grab, you won’t get an argument from me. I don’t think it was a very smart move on Adobe’s part, and it totally goes against the mentality of open systems that allow for more competition and more choice, which is the way the world is going these days.

    If we’re going on price alone, though, I do think that $49.99, 19.99 or 9.99 per month is going to be easier to swallow for many people than going with a very steep up front price. Photoshop CS6 alone costs $700 to buy as a brand new user. If you buy Photoshop CC at the single app price of $19.99/mo, that same $700 will get you three years of use, including all upgrades, and CC is a newer, more advanced version. And if you add Lightroom at $150, that’s still much easier than spending $850 up front just to get into the program. $9.99 for existing users is pretty reasonable, but for all users, the savings starts to break down over a number of years because you’re forced to keep paying it. You can’t decide to save some money by skipping a version.

    However, what if you use a third app in your workflow? In addition to PS and LR, I also use InDesign, but I don’t use ANY of the other Adobe applications. I think that there should be a price break there, because I shouldn’t have to pay the same $49/mo if I’m NOT also using Illustrator, Dreamweaver, Premiere, After Effects, Audition, SpeedGrade, Flash, Prelude, Bridge and Fireworks. $49 is a pretty good deal if you’re a designer who uses ALL of Adobe’s apps, but it’s a horrible deal if you’re a photographer who does your own web design, or creates your own eBooks or print marketing, which is what I use InDesign for.

    My other HUGE problem with the whole thing is that if you stop your subscription, the software quits working. From that standpoint, you’re only renting it and you have absolutely no on how and when you want to upgrade or not. In my mind, that’s just too much control on Adobe’s part. Since this is a brand new idea, we can only hope that it continues to evolve over the next few years. It may very well be that Adobe Creative Cloud looks quite different in a few years than it does now.

  • I have to disagree with you, any form of subscription software is a lousy deal in my opinion. As they say, it’s a limited introductory offer and I guarantee you they will continually up the cost sooner or later once you’re locked in. I would rather stick with my outdated CS2 version than pay an ever increasing monthly fee for the rest of my life.

  • Dan Bailey says:

    Alan, supposedly, the introductory offer is the need to sign up before December 31. It doesn’t go up after one year, although you’re probably right, I can see them raising it at some point. And when I said it was a good deal, what I probably should have said was “in light of Adobe’s current direction, this is as good a deal as you’re going to get if you want to use Photoshop.” I don’t like the subscription model at all and I’m curious to see where this all goes. Even though I signed up for CC, I did so while holding my nose.

  • Dave Credo says:

    Dan….although it appears as a better “deal”, with increasing phone/tv/internet fees,and everything else, the bubble is bound to burst. I retired last year and fixed income budgets can only stretch so much. Although i may take the $9.99/month deal for a while; what happens when i can no longer afford it? Will my current Lightroom 5 still work but with only the current features, or all come to a crashing halt? It was easier to save for a new upgrade and get it when you could afford a one time expense. Could be a real bumpy road for us not generating $$ from photography and on fixed incomes.

  • Dan Bailey says:

    Dave, thanks for your input. I’m totally with you here. I don’t like the endless monthly rate model at all. If you purchased a stand alone copy of Lightroom outside of CC, then it should work, even if you quit your CC subscription. If you got LR through CC, then it won’t work anymore when you stop paying the monthly fee. Seems like a good argument to get LR separately from CC.

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